SexyTrashCan wrote:Just came off as a lighthearted joke/teasing the Phandom since why else would he leave it in after editing?

I don't think Marcus edits his videos. In the start he addresses Matt, and Matt is the guy who researches/produces/manages Marcus Butler's second channel. (This is based on a quick google of "Marcus Butler Gleam Matt" if you're curious.)

I don't think it's a huge leap to assume Matt edits the videos too, and who knows how involved in the inside workings of the youtube community (outside of his own job) Matt actually is.

alittledizzy wrote:

SexyTrashCan wrote:Just came off as a lighthearted joke/teasing the Phandom since why else would he leave it in after editing?

I don't think Marcus edits his videos. In the start he addresses Matt, and Matt is the guy who researches/produces/manages Marcus Butler's second channel. (This is based on a quick google of "Marcus Butler Gleam Matt" if you're curious.)

I don't think it's a huge leap to assume Matt edits the videos too, and who knows how involved in the inside workings of the youtube community (outside of his own job) Matt actually is.

Hmm interesting...

dianapml wrote:[offtopic]I haven't seen anyone mention Marcus latest video 'GUESS THE YOUTUBERS REAL NAME 2"- it mentions Dan and Phil and featured something that made me surprised: he tries to guess people’s full names and rightly guesses that Dan's middle name is James. Afterwards his friend off-camera says “You love him” and Marcus answers “sorry phil sorry phil”. Like? He said it (imo) in a completely genuine tone and not sarcastic at all and I mean, how can you interpret that in a non romantic way? It doesn't really surprise me that he would say it even if only meaning it in regards to their clear chemistry and closeness and stuff, but to keep it after editing knowing how people would interpret it makes me .[/offtopic]

I interpreted his comment as him saying that he loves Dan, out of the duo D+P. (Like he likes Dan better, though he never directly said this.) I guess I can see the other interpretation also.

Ooh this Marcus Butler thing is really interesting, and I have no definitive interpretation. When I first watched it I immediately interpreted it as implying that he was sorry to Phil because dnp are in a relationship and he's just made a flirtatious comment toward Phil's partner. Whether there was any element of truth to this or whether he said this to bait dnp's viewers I wasn't sure.

But I think spaceguitar could also be correct, in that Marcus meaning "sorry Phil for focusing on Dan and not you, as out of your duo I prefer Dan" would make a lot of sense. I really don't know, I think either of those interpretations are equally possible

spaceguitar wrote:

dianapml wrote:[offtopic]I haven't seen anyone mention Marcus latest video 'GUESS THE YOUTUBERS REAL NAME 2"- it mentions Dan and Phil and featured something that made me surprised: he tries to guess people’s full names and rightly guesses that Dan's middle name is James. Afterwards his friend off-camera says “You love him” and Marcus answers “sorry phil sorry phil”. Like? He said it (imo) in a completely genuine tone and not sarcastic at all and I mean, how can you interpret that in a non romantic way? It doesn't really surprise me that he would say it even if only meaning it in regards to their clear chemistry and closeness and stuff, but to keep it after editing knowing how people would interpret it makes me .[/offtopic]

I interpreted his comment as him saying that he loves Dan, out of the duo D+P. (Like he likes Dan better, though he never directly said this.) I guess I can see the other interpretation also.

yeah this is where my mind went to first, also. the phan interpretation definitely makes sense tho esp bc i only read the quotes from the video that dianapml posted, and watching the video may give off a different vibe

captainspacecoat wrote:Ooh this Marcus Butler thing is really interesting, and I have no definitive interpretation. When I first watched it I immediately interpreted it as implying that he was sorry to Phil because dnp are in a relationship and he's just made a flirtatious comment toward Phil's partner. Whether there was any element of truth to this or whether he said this to bait dnp's viewers I wasn't sure.

But I think spaceguitar could also be correct, in that Marcus meaning "sorry Phil for focusing on Dan and not you, as out of your duo I prefer Dan" would make a lot of sense. I really don't know, I think either of those interpretations are equally possible

I thought the same thing that was your first thought. I saw the video before it was mentioned here but weirdly enough it didn't even register with me that it could be interpreted as Marcus 'confirming' that they are together. Shows how used I am to thinking they are together and thinking that everyone else thinks this as well. :wtf:

yupitsme wrote:

captainspacecoat wrote:Ooh this Marcus Butler thing is really interesting, and I have no definitive interpretation. When I first watched it I immediately interpreted it as implying that he was sorry to Phil because dnp are in a relationship and he's just made a flirtatious comment toward Phil's partner. Whether there was any element of truth to this or whether he said this to bait dnp's viewers I wasn't sure.

But I think spaceguitar could also be correct, in that Marcus meaning "sorry Phil for focusing on Dan and not you, as out of your duo I prefer Dan" would make a lot of sense. I really don't know, I think either of those interpretations are equally possible

I thought the same thing that was your first thought. I saw the video before it was mentioned here but weirdly enough it didn't even register with me that it could be interpreted as Marcus 'confirming' that they are together. Shows how used I am to thinking they are together and thinking that everyone else thinks this as well. :wtf:

was marcus the one who said in that louise video about youtubers making out at parties

to dan: "you was going to say, you and" and it gets all awkward..

or was that jack howard??

either way, if it was marcus, hes bad at slipping up lmao

dans left hand wrote:

yupitsme wrote:

captainspacecoat wrote:Ooh this Marcus Butler thing is really interesting, and I have no definitive interpretation. When I first watched it I immediately interpreted it as implying that he was sorry to Phil because dnp are in a relationship and he's just made a flirtatious comment toward Phil's partner. Whether there was any element of truth to this or whether he said this to bait dnp's viewers I wasn't sure.

But I think spaceguitar could also be correct, in that Marcus meaning "sorry Phil for focusing on Dan and not you, as out of your duo I prefer Dan" would make a lot of sense. I really don't know, I think either of those interpretations are equally possible

I thought the same thing that was your first thought. I saw the video before it was mentioned here but weirdly enough it didn't even register with me that it could be interpreted as Marcus 'confirming' that they are together. Shows how used I am to thinking they are together and thinking that everyone else thinks this as well. :wtf:

was marcus the one who said in that louise video about youtubers making out at parties

to dan: "you was going to say, you and" and it gets all awkward..

or was that jack howard??

either way, if it was marcus, hes bad at slipping up lmao

it was jack, not marcus.

ahh ok, should've checked but i couldnt find the video. thanks! ^

I read what Marcus said before I watched the actual video and was expecting there to be a "sorry Phil, for knowing Dan better" context in the way that he said it. Instead, for me, it came across as a sorry to Phil for the comment about his partner. He looked in the same direction for both Dan and Phil so I'm thinking he might've had their (and other youtubers') books somewhere in that direction. That would make sense to me that Phil was "looking at him" so he said sorry, especially after the sext prank. For me, if it were a "sorry for focusing on Dan" he could've repeated it again when he failed to get Phil's name right too, but he didn't. Unless they just reordered the footage in editing and it was a "sorry Phil, for getting Dan's name right and not yours". But why not just order the list before it's filmed.

NoOneWantsATortoise wrote:I read what Marcus said before I watched the actual video and was expecting there to be a "sorry Phil, for knowing Dan better" context in the way that he said it. Instead, for me, it came across as a sorry to Phil for the comment about his partner. He looked in the same direction for both Dan and Phil so I'm thinking he might've had their (and other youtubers') books somewhere in that direction. That would make sense to me that Phil was "looking at him" so he said sorry, especially after the sext prank. For me, if it were a "sorry for focusing on Dan" he could've repeated it again when he failed to get Phil's name right too, but he didn't. Unless they just reordered the footage in editing and it was a "sorry Phil, for getting Dan's name right and not yours". But why not just order the list before it's filmed.

Actually forgot about the sext prank. Putting that into perspective makes it more likely he meant it in a "sorry for stealing your man" way.

dans left hand wrote:ahh ok, should've checked but i couldnt find the video. thanks! ^

here's the video, just for the record

dannonfill wrote:

dans left hand wrote:ahh ok, should've checked but i couldnt find the video. thanks! ^

here's the video, just for the record

Oh lord I forgot quite how much that video makes me cringe for poor Dan

[offtopic]What if Deppy ends up like this?

...Sorry for the shameless plug, but this just reminds me so much of this fic:
http://its-just-phun-to-imagine.tumblr. ... 4/like-you[/offtopic]

SexyTrashCan wrote:

dannonfill wrote:

dans left hand wrote:ahh ok, should've checked but i couldnt find the video. thanks! ^

here's the video, just for the record

Oh lord I forgot quite how much that video makes me cringe for poor Dan

And (as someone pointed out on here before, I think) Tomska comes in and rescues Dan, which is very sweet of him. (I've been watching Tomska's vlogs recently, and I think he's a pretty decent human being.)

CallMeAyana wrote:[offtopic]What if Deppy ends up like this?

...Sorry for the shameless plug, but this just reminds me so much of this fic:
http://its-just-phun-to-imagine.tumblr. ... 4/like-you[/offtopic]

I don't like that phanfic. soz
Right now, though, they are undoubtedly happier and closer to each other than they have ever been. I can't think of a reason why that would change anytime soon. It's such an unlikely scenario to me that I find it masochistic to think about. Everything points to them moving forward in life together, not apart.

CallMeAyana wrote:[offtopic]What if Deppy ends up like this?

...Sorry for the shameless plug, but this just reminds me so much of this fic:
http://its-just-phun-to-imagine.tumblr. ... 4/like-you[/offtopic]

I can't believe I got super invested in a commercial for 2 minutes only for it to end up like that.

that new phil selfie... i am in love aaaaa

Skylar wrote:that new phil selfie... i am in love aaaaa

Mhm I love that he's made it his twitter icon as well; because it's not a silly face or a smile, just straight-faced male model Phil. Lovely.

CallMeAyana wrote:[offtopic]

]What if Deppy ends up like this?

...Sorry for the shameless plug, but this just reminds me so much of this fic:
http://its-just-phun-to-imagine.tumblr. ... 4/like-you[/offtopic]

*coughs* anyway, i think i let my inner demon angsty phanfic reader come out a bit too much there. The fact that I just can't convince myself that they're romantically together doesn't really help my paranoia either lol. No matter how unlikely the scenario of them drifting apart seems right now, what with how happy and together they've been lately
(i'm right in the trash can with u, mysterylovescompany )

Also that Phil pic!! what the fUck! I'm so in love! he really is beautiful, every time he uploads a selfie like that I lose about 10 years off my life lmao

I personally interpret his comments as a "sorry for coming for your man, phil." Because there's no real indication that he's thinking about not knowing Phil's name or preferring Dan. Matt says that he loves Dan, and Markus apologizes for that. And the sexting video probably put the concept of him/dan in his head. So that's the first thought to pop into his mind and after that his instinct is to apologize to Phil.

The only way it really makes sense that he was apologizing to Phil for forgetting his name but remembering Dan's is if it was edited out of order.

captainspacecoat wrote:Ooh this Marcus Butler thing is really interesting, and I have no definitive interpretation. When I first watched it I immediately interpreted it as implying that he was sorry to Phil because dnp are in a relationship and he's just made a flirtatious comment toward Phil's partner. Whether there was any element of truth to this or whether he said this to bait dnp's viewers I wasn't sure.

But I think spaceguitar could also be correct, in that Marcus meaning "sorry Phil for focusing on Dan and not you, as out of your duo I prefer Dan" would make a lot of sense. I really don't know, I think either of those interpretations are equally possible

I can't see how the second context idea works, since they're only discussing Dan because his name was in the game. There was no reason to apologise for forgetting Phil or not mentioning him too, his name just wasn't in the game, and I'm guessing Marcus didn't know the list of people before filming so the comment about him loving Dan was unplanned. It doesn't make sense to me personally how it can be anything other than the suggestion nobody else can fawn over Dan than Phil?? Lol. Thus an apology was necessary? It's all very odd haha.

Does Marcus do liveshows? Maybe someone will ask haha.

Marcus kind of weirds me out in general. Not that I've seen a lot of him. But the little I've seen weirds me out. One video in particular that stands out to me is a video he did with Connor and Troye where he has this intense moment where he demands to know if whipped cream turns Troye on.

There's just something about him that I don't quite trust.

Not that any of that really has anything to do with Dan and Phil. Just a general observation.

LeftHandedism wrote:

SexyTrashCan wrote:

dannonfill wrote:

dans left hand wrote:ahh ok, should've checked but i couldnt find the video. thanks! ^

here's the video, just for the record

Oh lord I forgot quite how much that video makes me cringe for poor Dan

And (as someone pointed out on here before, I think) Tomska comes in and rescues Dan, which is very sweet of him. (I've been watching Tomska's vlogs recently, and I think he's a pretty decent human being.)

Yeah the more I look into TomSka the more I like him for being a genuine nice guy

human wrote:

captainspacecoat wrote:
But I think spaceguitar could also be correct, in that Marcus meaning "sorry Phil for focusing on Dan and not you, as out of your duo I prefer Dan" would make a lot of sense. I really don't know, I think either of those interpretations are equally possible

I can't see how the second context idea works, since they're only discussing Dan because his name was in the game. There was no reason to apologise for forgetting Phil or not mentioning him too, his name just wasn't in the game, and I'm guessing Marcus didn't know the list of people before filming so the comment about him loving Dan was unplanned. It doesn't make sense to me personally how it can be anything other than the suggestion nobody else can fawn over Dan than Phil?? Lol. Thus an apology was necessary? It's all very odd haha.

Yeah, the more I think about it the more my immediate interpretation (that he meant it as an apology to Phil for hitting on his man) makes sense. The second option does feel like a bit of a stretch, but it still kind of makes sense to me as Dan and Phil are very much a package deal at this point and liking one more than the other or mentioning one and not the other can I guess be seen as a bit of a stretch. But yeah, I'm with you, I think the first interpretation makes more sense in this context .

gigs wrote:Marcus kind of weirds me out in general. Not that I've seen a lot of him. But the little I've seen weirds me out. One video in particular that stands out to me is a video he did with Connor and Troye where he has this intense moment where he demands to know if whipped cream turns Troye on.

There's just something about him that I don't quite trust.

Not that any of that really has anything to do with Dan and Phil. Just a general observation.

I agree with you, I'm not a big fan. Last year he snapchatted a picture of himself eating watermelon with the black woman emoji on top, which is blatantly racist and disgusting. Ever since then I've been pretty wary of him tbh. And yeah, I haven't seen the video with Connor and Troye but that does sound pretty invasive/mildly fetishistic. I definitely don't trust him, that's for sure!