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fancybum wrote:
Just out of curiosity: what fandom pissed you off?
2013 was a shitty year for a queer person to be in any fandom
so it was probably more of a result of multiple things happening in a short span of time. for me it was kicked off by SPN in the first half of 2013, following by Moffat - getting on my nerves for a long time with the final nail in coffin of Capaldi announcement and dismissal of non-cis-male doctor, OUAT breaking up Mulan and Aurora (yesthankyousomuchforanothertragiclesbianstorylikeIneedthatshit) and the final nail was s3 of bbc Sherlock (and again more what Moffat said behind scenes) that made me decide to retire from any fandom world as such, (Finale of Faking it just justifying my decision, and some other shows as well), but damn world is a sad and blank place and without fandoms even more. (so with phandom it seems relaxing cause I don't have to worry about things that I would worry with TV like representation in characters and such and getting pissed off because as Dan said (I wasn't there for his 2012 thing, but yeah) 'on tumblr people accept, but real life is shit and has tons of judgment' (not exact words, but can't find the ls now) and then have a tv show where the runners treat me as a viewer as shit - well who needs that, not me )
I suspected SPN would be the answer, but yeah I forgot about a lot of the Moffatt stuff ugh. I've been watching The 100 and it was going pretty well and then of course they had to fall into the (yesthankyousomuchforanothertragiclesbianstorylikeIneedthatshit) trap and I'm close to rage-quitting based on some other dumb character choices. Decent queer-friendly fandoms are hard to come by in any year..
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sailor-moon wrote:also youknowwho deleted her account ._. speaks volumes doesnt it haha
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youknowwhoizshite is probably biding her time in an Albanian forest waiting to latch onto somebody's skull (ie: use a sockpuppet account and work her way back up)
sailor-moon wrote:btw I wonder if our boys will find this new site as well hope they will
no pls
Kurapika wrote:I hope something exciting happens on Dan's ls today, because we need something new to talk about lol
re: tatinof in not english speaking countries: i honestly think a south american tour of just the biggest cities (rio, sao paulo, buenos aires, and maybe santiago?) would work because there's so many people in those cities (+ those willing to travel) that they definitely can get 1 or 2 thousand people confident enough on their english to attend, idk if that would be profitable for them, but bands do it all the time, many south american tours only include those cities i mentioned
re: age of of not native english speaker phans: most of my friends watch them although none of them are as involved as i am and we're all in our early 20, idk anyone younger but when i got into them i was 15, my english has improved a lot in the last 5/6 years but i think that I would have understood the show back then anyway, they are very a-r-t-i-c-u-l-a-t-e which helps a lot
re: jealous dan, p l e a s e make a thread for it, it's hilarious, i've never seen someone be so obvious
i feel represented with these emojis, thank
(if i managed to find a pink trashcan one could it possibly be added?, pleeeease)
Dan Howell wrote:'[someone] just sent me a message saying 'Phil'..... same'
fkatwigs wrote:Hearing of the recent Youtuber breakups (Hangrid, possibly Tronner idk I don't follow them particularly) is another reminder for me as to why Dan and Phil never went and unfortunately likely never will go public; public breakups are messy and stressful, even back in the old days when youtubers were less popular/in the public eye break ups blew into huge things for example I remember Alex Day (sorry to bring him up ) had some bad ones very early on which I feel like might have influenced phan's decision to stay ambiguous (just about.. ) from the start.
While if they are a couple I think there are a lot of valid reasons to keep it secret I don't think avoiding the messy awkward break-up should be one of them being at this point they have zero chance of escaping that (other then staying together forever).
Whether Dan and Phil are friends or a couple if they end whatever it is they have going on it is going to cause a sh*tstorm of epic proportions. Even those who believe it's just friendship will be speculating wildly about what went down between them if they were to suddenly move out and stop collaborating/hanging out with one another. Any major changes that put distance between them will be treat like a break-up even by those who believe it's a friendship falling out.
sailor-moon wrote:
btw I wonder if our boys will find this new site as well hope they will
While we'd never really know for sure if they have or haven't discovered this place personally I'd love to think they never will. It would be amazing if there was somewhere on the internet to discuss Dan and Phil where the 4th wall was still a legitimate thing.
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trashqueen wrote:not quoting because laziness and mobile soz
re: tatinof in not english speaking countries: i honestly think a south american tour of just the biggest cities (rio, sao paulo, buenos aires, and maybe santiago?) would work because there's so many people in those cities (+ those willing to travel) that they definitely can get 1 or 2 thousand people confident enough on their english to attend, idk if that would be profitable for them, but bands do it all the time, many south american tours only include those cities i mentioned
re: age of of not native english speaker phans: most of my friends watch them although none of them are as involved as i am and we're all in our early 20, idk anyone younger but when i got into them i was 15, my english has improved a lot in the last 5/6 years but i think that I would have understood the show back then anyway, they are very a-r-t-i-c-u-l-a-t-e which helps a lot
re: jealous dan, p l e a s e make a thread for it, it's hilarious, i've never seen someone be so obvious
i feel represented with these emojis, thank
(if i managed to find a pink trashcan one could it possibly be added?, pleeeease)
I think that them touring in the big cities of mainly non-English speaking people could work out, it's just comparing them to touring bands is a lot different. Usually bands just say the cities name to get the crowd going, and preform the show as usual, not really having to worry about the language barrier since it's music that most of the people probably are a fan of/don't really need to know the lyrics to enjoy. I can see people going there just because they enjoy Dan + Phil that don't speak English fluently enough, but still have a fun time.
It's all subjective to the people that are going, but I agree with the idea they tour in the largest/most well known cities.
In the sunday times article, the writer states that they plan to take tatinof to "Rio, Manila, Jakarta and America, where their biggest fanbase resides." I wonder if that's still the case. I'm ignorant to how large their fanbase is outside Europe and North America.
I'm surprised D+P told the sunday times where they're going next, knowing this interview would get released to the public and we would all see it. Since then, neither of them have brought up going to Rio, Manila or Jakarta to the phandom.
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ive seen dan gifs on korean sites like pann nate before, but i have no idea if there's a large sub base there or if it was just a gif of him as a pretty boy. my korean isn't good enough to post and ask. surely there's a site where you can see full demographics of another channel?
my name is jaejmine masters and i have something to say. dan and phil have fucked up japan
phil lester threw the first brick at stonewall, we love a queer icon
[offtopic]Sorry for the messages I sent to a few users that are still on GG, this site glitched out for me for like 5 minutes and then worked again lol[/offtopic]
Also, aren't Dan's liveshows after 9? I remember getting home (I am in the EST standard time zone) and I still caught the end of one, at like 10:45 in his time zone...
Phil Lester wrote:"I'll rub myself in a mango before I eat a mango."
"Make no judgements where you have no compassion." -Anne McCaffrey
blueapple_x wrote:In the sunday times article, the writer states that they plan to take tatinof to "Rio, Manila, Jakarta and America, where their biggest fanbase resides." I wonder if that's still the case. I was ignorant to how large their fanbase is outside Europe and North America.
I'm surprised D+P told the sunday times where they're going next, knowing this interview would get released to the public and we would all see it. Since then, neither of them have brought up going to Rio, Manila or Jakarta to the phandom.
Were they referring to Rio, Manila and Jakarta as to where the biggest fanbase resides, or did they only mean America? Bit of a strange way to write it I suppose, I thought they were saying Jakarta had the biggest *shudders* Phandom.
jaej, I couldn't find any YouTube demographics in my quick search but I did find his Twitter demographics:
It really surprised me about the age range, guess we aren't the only middle aged nose perverts.
This was pretty funny, too:
Hope that helped a bit, sorry it wasn't exactly what you were asking for.
blueapple_x wrote:In the sunday times article, the writer states that they plan to take tatinof to "Rio, Manila, Jakarta and America, where their biggest fanbase resides." I wonder if that's still the case. I was ignorant to how large their fanbase is outside Europe and North America.
I'm surprised D+P told the sunday times where they're going next, knowing this interview would get released to the public and we would all see it. Since then, neither of them have brought up going to Rio, Manila or Jakarta to the phandom.
Were they referring to Rio, Manila and Jakarta as to where the biggest fanbase resides, or did they only mean America? Bit of a strange way to write it I suppose, I thought they were saying Jakarta had the biggest *shudders* Phandom.
I'm pretty sure they meant America is where their biggest fanbase resides. Regardless, they apparently said they're going to Rio, Manila and Jakarta. And they still plan to go to Europe! Holy crap...has any other youtuber gone to as many places as they are planning to???
lilMango wrote:Also, aren't Dan's liveshows after 9? I remember getting home (I am in the EST standard time zone) and I still caught the end of one, at like 10:45 in his time zone...
Daylight Savings Time just happened for the UK, whereas US/CDA jumped forward a few weeks ago. So I think his last liveshow was an hour later because of that (for us, it was still 9pm for him), but it's all back to normal now
maybe they are already amongst us disguised as well known members one we would never suggest
dan could be disguised as a dan hater
and phil as a phil hater
nah but seriously ^^ I get why you wouldnt want them to find us and things like the bellybutton picture collection ( showed that to my friend and he asked why anyone would collect that blasphemy ! )
but I want them to read those posts that give me serious writing skill envy
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sailor-moon wrote:maybe they are already amongst us disguised as well known members once we would never suggest
dan could be disguised as a dan hater
and phil as a phil hater
nah but seriously ^^ I get why you wouldnt want them to find us and things like the bellybutton picture collection ( showed that to my friend and he asked why anyone would collect that blasphemy ! )
but I want them to read those posts that give me serious writing skill envy
sailor-moon wrote:maybe they are already amongst us disguised as well known members once we would never suggest
dan could be disguised as a dan hater
and phil as a phil hater
nah but seriously ^^ I get why you wouldnt want them to find us and things like the bellybutton picture collection ( showed that to my friend and he asked why anyone would collect that blasphemy ! )
but I want them to read those posts that give me serious writing skill envy
fancybum wrote:
Just out of curiosity: what fandom pissed you off?
2013 was a shitty year for a queer person to be in any fandom
so it was probably more of a result of multiple things happening in a short span of time. for me it was kicked off by SPN in the first half of 2013, following by Moffat - getting on my nerves for a long time with the final nail in coffin of Capaldi announcement and dismissal of non-cis-male doctor, OUAT breaking up Mulan and Aurora (yesthankyousomuchforanothertragiclesbianstorylikeIneedthatshit) and the final nail was s3 of bbc Sherlock (and again more what Moffat said behind scenes) that made me decide to retire from any fandom world as such, (Finale of Faking it just justifying my decision, and some other shows as well), but damn world is a sad and blank place and without fandoms even more. (so with phandom it seems relaxing cause I don't have to worry about things that I would worry with TV like representation in characters and such and getting pissed off because as Dan said (I wasn't there for his 2012 thing, but yeah) 'on tumblr people accept, but real life is shit and has tons of judgment' (not exact words, but can't find the ls now) and then have a tv show where the runners treat me as a viewer as shit - well who needs that, not me )
I suspected SPN would be the answer, but yeah I forgot about a lot of the Moffatt stuff ugh. I've been watching The 100 and it was going pretty well and then of course they had to fall into the (yesthankyousomuchforanothertragiclesbianstorylikeIneedthatshit) trap and I'm close to rage-quitting based on some other dumb character choices. Decent queer-friendly fandoms are hard to come by in any year..
can someone post any important liveshow moments, either as they happen or when it's done? it's the party leaders debate in scotland tonight and i'm being a good citizen and watching something more important than flame boy saying that he does like fall out boy and watch sherlock
my name is jaejmine masters and i have something to say. dan and phil have fucked up japan
phil lester threw the first brick at stonewall, we love a queer icon
jaej wrote:can someone post any important liveshow moments, either as they happen or when it's done? it's the party leaders debate in scotland tonight and i'm being a good citizen and watching something more important than flame boy saying that he does like fall out boy and watch sherlock
I think updatedphan on twitter do it after every show, or?
fakelights wrote:
IckleMissMayhem wrote:Has Kanye done anything in the past fortnight? Only asking so I can brace myself just in case...!
He released a new song on Sunday, so be prepared
NOooooooooooooooooo (we need a headdesk smilie )
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