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2016swofrospaceguitarphamnotoflilMangojaejierogrannypantsfancybumdaphenaxabluebox-awayangrymobakuiRigbyLucetKathrynxjaneJeweulDaniel Howell & Phil Lester/viewtopic.php?t=203&start=825Dan & Phil Part 5: Dan & Phil Lester (page 34)
angrymob wrote:
I'm 99% sure Dan is wearing one of Phil's shirts that I don't think I've seen in the in 'Dan wears Phil's clotehs' catalogue in the thumbnail of that video. Why did he even bother to deny that he wears Phil's clothes in the first place? It wouldn't have ever been weird if he had never denied it.
Haha, don't worry, that shirt is included in my compilation.
I have in fact not actually seen your compilation, but another one. This is great! I should have never doubted that you'd be on top of it.
Dan seriously did seem to make few gay jokes on Phil's behalf. Like, what? I don't think he has ever done that before this video. It even seems a bit inappropriate to me.
fancybum wrote:
Hmm. Maybe they are going together... ?
Personally I think Dan is already in Florida and I wish he'd say so. It's not weird to hang out with people before starting the tour, no need to be cagey about it. But as usual, who knows.
I honestly doubt that Dan's not in Floriday, considering he was actually seen at an airport and tweeted about falling asleep choking on peanuts hours after. I even think that he knows we know, but why acknowledge it and risk a higher amount of fans catching wind of it and potentially trying to stalk spot them on their vacation?
But then again, you never know for sure with the two of them.
Dan seriously did seem to make few gay jokes on Phil's behalf. Like, what? I don't think he has ever done that before this video. It even seems a bit inappropriate to me.
i don't think that's a gay joke at all..? it's just a fact about him, and one that he brings up in a mildly comedic way to show the 'haha typical dan and phil not being masculine enough!!' thing
my name is jaejmine masters and i have something to say. dan and phil have fucked up japan
phil lester threw the first brick at stonewall, we love a queer icon
Dan seriously did seem to make few gay jokes on Phil's behalf. Like, what? I don't think he has ever done that before this video. It even seems a bit inappropriate to me.
Fruity cocktails are an actual thing, it doesn't automatically make it a gay joke. What were the other ones? ("a few gay jokes")
Dan seriously did seem to make few gay jokes on Phil's behalf. Like, what? I don't think he has ever done that before this video. It even seems a bit inappropriate to me.
how is this a gay joke? is it again an idiom that I know nothing about?
If you’re attracted to somebody, you’ll want them to sniff you eventually - Dan
*Phil is turned on by Dan's brilliance* *they kiss* *they have sex in the microwave* - Oqua (actually Phil)
Sorry for being unclear. I'm referencing how he made a comparison of Dean and his lager to Phil and his fruity cocktail, and said 'its just who we are' or something like that. I took it as a gay joke. Idk about you guys
spaceguitar wrote:Sorry for being unclear. I'm referencing how he made a comparison of Dean and his lager to Phil and his fruity cocktail, and said 'its just who we are' or something like that. I took it as a gay joke. Idk about you guys
I took it as more of a nod to their lack of stereotypical masculinity, not their sexuality. Especially since Dan also went on about being perceived as the alpha male of the group.
spaceguitar wrote:Sorry for being unclear. I'm referencing how he made a comparison of Dean and his lager to Phil and his fruity cocktail, and said 'its just who we are' or something like that. I took it as a gay joke. Idk about you guys
I took it as more of a nod to their lack of stereotypical masculinity, not their sexuality. Especially since Dan also went on about being perceived as the alpha male of the group.
Ok fair enough. That makes sense too. For some reason I just initially took the comment in a sexuality-related way.
Maybe it was his use of the word fruity? I know he was describing the drink, but yeah that is kinda an (insulting?) idiom for being gay.
spaceguitar wrote:Sorry for being unclear. I'm referencing how he made a comparison of Dean and his lager to Phil and his fruity cocktail, and said 'its just who we are' or something like that. I took it as a gay joke. Idk about you guys
I took it as more of a nod to their lack of stereotypical masculinity, not their sexuality. Especially since Dan also went on about being perceived as the alpha male of the group.
I mean, to be fair, fruity drinks are a gay man's stereotypical favorite. That is a thing portrayed by popular culture over and over again. But we can neither blame Dan for not subscribing to said stereotype, nor for not being bothered by it. That being said, calling it a gay joke has the connotations that it's something bad/Dan was mocking Phil, which I just can't agree with, it was said with affection and Dan went on to talk about himself and not being percieved as traditionally masculine as well. (Which, like it or not, also a popular culture stereotype about male queerness.) We can only guess whether Dan had intended to make a comment on their sexual orientation through that, I don't think so, but either way, I'd assume he knew where Phil's limits were better than us.
What can I say. Wow, loved those videos. I might give my insights later. What pisses me of is their personas. I kinda think they don't show their real selves anymore.
spaceguitar wrote:Sorry for being unclear. I'm referencing how he made a comparison of Dean and his lager to Phil and his fruity cocktail, and said 'its just who we are' or something like that. I took it as a gay joke. Idk about you guys
I took it as more of a nod to their lack of stereotypical masculinity, not their sexuality. Especially since Dan also went on about being perceived as the alpha male of the group.
I mean, to be fair, fruity drinks are a gay man's stereotypical favorite. That is a thing portrayed by popular culture over and over again. But we can neither blame Dan for not subscribing to said stereotype, nor for not being bothered by it. That being said, calling it a gay joke has the connotations that it's something bad/Dan was mocking Phil, which I just can't agree with, it was said with affection and Dan went on to talk about himself and not being percieved as traditionally masculine as well. (Which, like it or not, also a popular culture stereotype about male queerness.) We can only guess whether Dan had intended to make a comment on their sexual orientation through that, I don't think so, but either way, I'd assume he knew where Phil's limits were better than us.
I agree with you here, because I definitely understand how spaceguitar interpreted it the way she did. I just couldn't see it as a joke Dan would actually make, making that connection between femininity and sexuality for another person at that, whereas I could see him making fun of how he and Phil don't live up to masculine stereotypes.
angrymob wrote:I agree with you here, because I definitely understand how spaceguitar interpreted it the way she did. I just couldn't see it as a joke Dan would actually make, making that connection between femininity and sexuality for another person at that, whereas I could see him making fun of how he and Phil don't live up to masculine stereotypes.
*nods* I'm basically the same, but I just wanted to clarify that the connection is indeed there and it's not impossible to make that assumption & from what I saw in the comments under the video, many people actually have.
nah it wasn't a gay joke. It was just to show Phil is not your stereotypical manly man who opens beer with his teeth and then chugs it. He's joked about Phil's love of "girly"superior drinks before. When they went to the pub in the London DITL and Phil took a raspberry flavoured cider or something comes to mind
If you’re attracted to somebody, you’ll want them to sniff you eventually - Dan
*Phil is turned on by Dan's brilliance* *they kiss* *they have sex in the microwave* - Oqua (actually Phil)
I kind of take the fruity cocktail thing as a reference to both Phil's perceived sexuality and his femininity, but at the same time I really don't think there's much depth to it at all.
@ the Instagram picture, Dean literally looks like my mom. (Just the way he was standing/his height + there is an optical illusion that he's wearing heels, gave me a giggle.) I'm calling him mom from now on.
wow, that hat is a strong statement he's finally in the US then!
for a second i thought he actually took a picture with his left side, sigh dan embrace the left dimple pls
"don't mind me, just having a little float" - dan howell
Why did he even bother to deny that he wears Phil's clothes in the first place? It wouldn't have ever been weird if he had never denied it.
but another one. This is great! I should have never doubted that you'd be on top of it. 
